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National vs. Citizen

Post by sonrising » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:31 pm

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Re: National vs. Citizen

Post by Destry » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:28 am

Reading all these cases and definitions of the word Citizen leads one to believe a Citizen is virtually defined as one who owes allegiance or alliance to another.

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In general. A member of a free city or jural society, (civitcu,) possessing all the rlghts and privileges which can be enjoyed by any person under its constitution and government, and subject to the corresponding duties. In American law. One who, under the constitution and laws of the United States, or of a particular state, and by virtue of birth or naturalization within the jurisdiction, is a member of the political community, owing allegiance and being entitled to the enjoyment of full civil rights. The term “citizen” has come to us derived from antiquity. It appears to have been used in the Roman government to designate a person who had the freedom of the city, and the right to exercise all political and civil privileges of the government. There was also, at Rome, a partial citizenship, including civil, but not political, rights. Complete citizenship embraced both. Thomasson v. State, 15 Ind. 451. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. Amend. XIV, Const. U. S. There Is in our political system a government of each of the several states, and a government of the United States. Each is distinct from the others, and has citizens of its own, who owe it allegiance, and whose rights, within its jurisdiction, it must protect. The same person may be at the same time a citizen of the United States and a citizen of a state; but his rights of citizenship under one of these governments will be different from those he has under the other. The government of the United States, although it is, within the scope of its powers, supreme and beyond the states, can neither grant nor secure to Its citizens rights or privileges which are not expressly or by implication placed under its jurisdiction. All that cannot be so granted or secured are left to the exclusive protection of the states. U. S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 23 L. Ed. 588. “Citizen” and “inhabitant” are not synonymous. One may be a citizen of a state without being an inhabitant, or an inhabitant without being a citizen. Quinby v. Duncan, 4 Har. (Del) 383.”Citizen” is sometimes used as synonymous with “resident;” as in a statute authorising funds to be distributed among the religious societies of a township, proportionably to the number of their members who are citizens of the township. State v. Trustees, 11 Ohio, 24. In English law. An Inhabitant of a city. 1 Rolle, 138. The representative of a city, In parliament. 1 Bl. Comm. 174. It will be perceived that in the English usage, the word adheres closely to its original meaning, as shown by its derivation, (civis, a free inhabitant of a city.) When it is designed to designate an inhabitant of the country, or one amenable to the laws of the nation, “subject” is the word there employed.

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persons. One who, under the constitution and laws of the United States, has a right to vote for representatives in congress, and other public officers, and who is qualified to fill offices in the gift of the people. In a more extended sense, under the word citizen, are included all white persons born in the United States, and naturalized persons born out of the same, who have not lost their right as such. This includes men, women, and children. 2. Citizens are either native born or naturalized. Native citizens may fill any office; naturalized citizens may be elected or appointed to any office under the constitution of the United States, except the office of president and vice-president. The constitution provides, that the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states. Art. 4, s. 2. 3. Prior to the abolishment of slavery after the Civil War, all natives were not citizens of the United States; nor were the descendants of the aborigines or those of African origin. They were not entitled to the same rights of citizens. Anterior to the adoption of the constitution of the United States, each state had the right to make citizens of such persons as it pleased. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, also known as the “Reconstruction Amendment”, addressed citizenship rights and equal protection of the law to include natives, aborigines and those of African origin among other people. Wechsler, 54, L. Ed. 613.
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Re: National vs. Citizen

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Re: National vs. Citizen

Post by Destry » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:09 am

That's right. The Federal CONstitution is between the states and the Feds. Our document is the Bill of Rights dealing with the Feds.
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